Host RevSusanne says:
Well then let us forge ahead.

Sherry says:
So, Noel, was the forgotten essay some of Holmes earlier works?

Nan says:
Rev. Susanne, I'm under the impression that in private mode #jesuschat would not show.  So only those who know it is here would be ble to enter.

Nan says:
on the channel list, I mean.

Host RevSusanne says:
I think that is true, but I cannot demonstrate it from my computer because I am the host.

RevNoel says:
Yes, The Real Christ was written in the 1930's (I estimate this on the basis of the typography).

RevNoel says:
Nobody I know has ever heard of it before.

RevNoel says:
Including the people who are most knowledgable aboiut these things.

Host RevSusanne says:
Editing for Science of Mind Magazine has blessed RevNoel with some wonderful skills...

Sherry says:
He seemed be more free in his literature style in the essay.  I liked it!

Nan says:
oel, did you send something called the forgotten essay?

RevNoel says:
It was entitled "Finding the Real Christ."

RevNoel says:
I though everybody got it.

Host RevSusanne says:
Its the one we discussed last week Nan.

Nan says:
Oh, ok, shaking her head.

RevNoel says:
Did yoyu get it, Nan?

Sherry says:
Sorry, Nan, Ihad not seen it until a few hours ago.

RevNoel says:
I'm still trying to find out why the listserv works for some of us and not for others.

Nan says:
Sure did!  Got too wrapped up in today's I guess.

Linda (LadyPoet48@pm3-3-19.apex.net) has joined the conversation.

RevNoel says:
Susanne and Ruth have been getting the posts, Nan, Linda and Sherry have not.

Nan says:
Hi LInda.

Host RevSusanne says:
Eeeck!

Host RevSusanne says:
Hello Linda!!!

RevNoel says:
Hi linda

Sherry says:
what?

Linda says:
Good evening everyone!

Sherry says:
Hi there, Linda

Linda says:
Just a little while ago got my lesson for tonight.

Host RevSusanne says:
So can we discuss how the essay impressed each of us?

Sherry says:
Holmes has such a child like invitation to his readers in this piece.  His love of Jesus and the gift given to us is apparent

Sherry says:
He makes it so easy to believe!

Sherry says:
What Jesus can do...we can do...what power!

RevNoel says:
I've always believed Jesus . . . but I ceased to believe much that was said about him.

Host RevSusanne says:
I liked the idea that even in the obstacles there is a Power that can resolve all difficulties, solve all problems...

RevNoel says:
Holmes restored by willingness to resume some of my beliefs about him.

Host RevSusanne says:
"It is your father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."  There is nothing good that God would not share with us, according to Jesus.

Nan says:
The statement that Christ is not limited to any person was a revelaton to me.

Host RevSusanne says:
Nice nan.  Can you say more about that?

RevNoel says:
Obstacles are actually road signs to opportunity.

Sherry says:
I love that, Noel.

Host RevSusanne says:
What difference does that make for you Nan?

Nan says:
I had always felt that  Christ was only within or a part of Jesus.

Host RevSusanne says:
And now, has reading this changed what you think?

Nan says:
Someone we always had to reach up to, implore, beg, etc.

Nan says:
Most definitely!

Nan says:
Liberated me.

RevNoel says:
Holmes helped me to see "Christhood" the same way I see life.  We are equally endowed with life, none of us has more than the the oither, yet saome of us do more with it.  So it is with Crhisthood.  Jesus just made more of  his CHristhood than other people have.

Nan says:
Made doing treatments so much more meaningful and effective.

Host RevSusanne says:
I had that same feeling when I was a child going to interdenominational neighborhood churches.  It was a relief to have Christ in me.

Sherry says:
I liked Jesus' personal relationship with God.

Host RevSusanne says:
Great way to express that Noel.

Host RevSusanne says:
Yes it would Nan

Host RevSusanne says:
I have always felt that anybody could have a great life.  When I discovered SoM, I discovered a way that I could share that possibility with others.

Nan says:
Yes.

Sherry says:
The world is hungry to know how to have a great life...we hunger for the love of God.

Host RevSusanne says:
A way that didn't require that I humiliate myself in any way, that showed me the face of Grace and God in my self.

Nan says:
When Holmes mentioned the real Truth, the realization that God is indwelling in the soul and spirit of man.

Nan says:
I was awestruc.

Host RevSusanne says:
Exactly what I was just describing.  I was so moved!

Linda says:
I'm trying to read and watch the discussion at the same time

Linda says:
This is all very goo.

Linda says:
good.

Nan says:
His poem Holy, Holy, Holy left me in tears of joy and gratitude.

Host RevSusanne says:
This realization changes everything, as far as I am concerned.  "God in me, as me, is me." and is each and everyone of of us!  Caused me to have a deeper faith in what was good and the exceptions to the rule melted away.

Host RevSusanne says:
I am so pleased to be having this conversation with you all.  You are all an example of the good that life is!

Nan says:
And I never felt "good" enough, and now I AM.

Host RevSusanne says:
Yahoo!!!!

Sherry says:
Your energy feels very good tonight, Nan

Host RevSusanne says:
If it works to move on, were there any questions that the essay raised for you?

Nan says:
Yes, have been doing Treatment and prayer much of the day.

Host RevSusanne whispers to RevNoel:
Nan is hot stuff!  She is completely grokking Holmes work!

RevNoel whispers to RevSusanne:
So I've noticed.  She'll be a great teacher for the course.

RevNoel whispers to RevSusanne:
I have great news to share before we're done

Host RevSusanne whispers to RevNoel:
Yes she will.  Probably better than Sherry, because it means so much more for her personally to be released from the bondage of her religioius past!

Sherry says:
What a great example of "It's not whether it works, its whether we work it!

Nan says:
It has raised no questions for me, but I have to remember to keep applying what I have learned here, so that it becomes deeply ingrained.

RevNoel whispers to RevSusanne:
Better than Sherry for certain audiences, I'd say, not necessarily in general.

Sherry says:
No questions here.

Host RevSusanne says:
"I can of myself do nothing...but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works!"  This is a great big lesson!

RevNoel whispers to RevSusanne:
I'm seeing Nan in generall remission of MS.

Nan says:
For sure, Susanne!

Host RevSusanne whispers to RevNoel:
I see her as the person who demonstrates that MS is empty and meaningless.

RevNoel whispers to RevSusanne:
YES!!!

Sherry says:
Until we invite the Spirit to help us, we are doing it ourselves.

Host RevSusanne says:
This is the power that flows through me when I do treatment.  It is an awesome feeling.

Host RevSusanne says:
Sherry, I love your enthusiasm.  En theos,means filled withf God, isn't that a wonderful way to express that?

RevNoel whispers to RevSusanne:
WOW!!! I just answered an urgent  treatment request  via ICQ while staying with this chat.  And I always resisted ICQ because I thought it would be a distraction.

Sherry says:
Yes, it is.

Host RevSusanne whispers to RevNoel:
I have trouble getting used to ICQ, so I haven't really been using it.  Will rethink that.

Host RevSusanne says:
So are there any other ways that we can use this lesson to fortify our practice?

RevNoel whispers to RevSusanne:
It's delinearizing me quite rapidly . . .

Sherry says:
So, we are always using the Law, it is up to us to personalize the relationship of God, right?

RevNoel says:
The Law is always working for us in whatever way we are personalizing it - which we are ALWAYS doing.

Host RevSusanne says:
I think of personalizing my relationship with God as just doing treatment consciously.  As Noel said, we are always doing it.

RevNoel says:
It's up to us to personalize the relationship to Law and God in the way that works optimally for ourselves and all concerned.

RevNoel says:
Yes, Susanne, being conscious of purpose and consequences.

Host RevSusanne says:
Our day to day interactions with people are an example of that.  If its all God, then we are always relating to God.  How do we honor that?

Nan says:
Yes, and I follow it with a period of meditation and have become unaware of time them... just a wonderful AT ONENESS!

RevNoel says:
We have freedom of choice, but not of consequence - which is the major purpose for being conscious.

Host RevSusanne says:
Nan I am so happy for you!  That is such a wonderful sequence, one I too practice.

Host RevSusanne says:
What do we do with the grumpy people in line at the grocery store?

RevNoel says:
Love em!!!

Sherry says:
And cheer them up...it costs us nothing.

Host RevSusanne says:
Treat for them to be suddenly overtaken by joy!

RevNoel says:
I recognize that there, but for the grace of God, they would be stuck.

RevNoel says:
And because of Gid's grace, they are not stuck there.

Host RevSusanne says:
I am perfectly happy to allow joy to show up just because I asked for it to show up.  I don't have to be the one who delivers it, who knows, the checker may break in to song!

Nan says:
My favorite patients in geriatrics were the grumpy, fiesty ones.  

RevNoel says:
Still lots of life there . . .

Nan says:
And how they reacted to love.

Host RevSusanne says:
It's a surprise isn't it Nan?

RevNoel says:
Before we join Dr. Ruth I have good news.

Sherry says:
All actions are either a call for love, or a giving of love.

Nan says:
For them and also the onlookers!

Host RevSusanne says:
Yes Indeed Nan!

Host RevSusanne says:
Go ahead Noel.  Tell us the good news!

RevNoel says:
I talked with the new editor of SOM publications yesterday.

RevNoel says:
Told her about our use of Holme's POJ book.

RevNoel says:
She said she will put it at the top of her liost of books to bring back into print this fall.

Host RevSusanne says:
Yahoo!!!

Nan says:
Very good!

Host RevSusanne says:
How about the Home Study Course?

RevNoel says:
No problem . . .

Sherry says:
YES!!!

Nan says:
Seconded!

Host RevSusanne says:
Wow!!!!

Linda says:
:-)

Host RevSusanne says:
I can't tell you how happy that news makes me!

RevNoel says:
As with POJ, we can use Home Study course ad hoc for a while until we get it up on a website.

Host RevSusanne says:
Its fine with me.  I see a long life of scanning pages for our friends here!

RevNoel says:
Parcelling it out by e-mail isn't going to ruffle any feathers for the time being.

Host RevSusanne says:
I see more and more interest building in online study.

Linda says:
Before we leave I want to say that I have saved the log and have been keeping track of the discussion.  I am, however, entering grades to be turned in before I leave for New Orleans tomorrow.  My apologies for not participating tonight.

Host RevSusanne says:
Building at the speed that we can handle it so that it is seamless and everyone is perfectly served!

RevNoel says:
By early summer we can start getting both courses on a website, with accompanying chats and listservs.

Host RevSusanne says:
Great!

Sherry says:
Have fun in New Orleans, Linda.

RevNoel says:
I'm also supporting Dr. Ruth in doing the same with This Thing Called You.

Host RevSusanne says:
I will be sending out an e-mail to all of you about the Home Study Course continuing on once we have completed POJ.

Linda says:
Thank you Susanne.

Nan says:
Will be looking for it, Susanne!

Host RevSusanne says:
Its likely early next week!

Host RevSusanne says:
Thank you for being here today.  May Love and Law guide you on your journeys!

Sherry says:
Good night everybody.

RevNoel says:
HS course, POJ and TTCY are a trinity of online entry points to SOM.

Host RevSusanne says:
Namaste!

Linda says:
Goodnight Sherry.

RevNoel says:
Good night.  See some of you at Dr. Ruth's.

Host RevSusanne says:
Agreed Noel!  Lets go see Dr, Ruth!

RevNoel says:
O.K.

Sherry has left the conversation.

Nan says:
Good night, all.  See you with Rev. Ruth.

Host RevSusanne has left the conversation.

Nan has left the conversation.

RevNoel says:
Have a great time in Newe Orleans, Linda.

Linda says:
Thank you Noel.